Tuesday, January 16, 2007

No Good Reason To Be An Atheist: Part II - Foundationalism

In part II of this series, we continue our discussion of reasons why the various brands of atheism are bankrupt from an epistemological standpoint. In part one we already noted that historically, there has always been a search for certainty in philosophy but the route of epistemological relativism is a self-refuting dead-end. So, let’s turn our attention to part deux of this series and look at another atheistic attempt at finding epistemic certainty, foundationalism.

Foundationalism

In the history of Western philosophy perhaps the most common way of finding certainty is what we call foundationalism. Foundationalism is a theory of knowledge that maintains that in order to be sure of our propositions (i.e., our premises), we need to make sure that they are based on adequate and proper foundations for knowledge. Foundationalism aims to obtain cognitive certainty beyond psychological assurance by anchoring one’s belief in some kind of secure basis; namely certain unassailable propositions. And from that foundation we can conduct intellectual inquiries according to strict and reliable methods of reasoning, admitting to our system of thought no propositions which cannot certified by the foundation or by other foundationally certified beliefs and thereby guaranteeing ourselves an accurate depiction of the world. Now this approach to knowledge has enjoyed numerous devotees through history such as Aristotle, Decartes, the logical positivists of the 20th century and many more. Indeed, foundationalism might be considered “the great banner of Western Enlightenment.” The basic idea with foundationalism is that reason must be given its secure starting point so that knowledge may be gained in the absence of any form of cognitive imperialism. Cognitive imperialism exists in different forms: take arrogance for instance. This would be the person who says, “I know that its true and I don’t have to give an argument for it.” Or dogmatism, the view that “well God said it to me and I know that it’s true” or fideism the view that “well everybody has to start somewhere and this is just where I begin.”

Critical skepticism is not answered by any of these approaches and so the foundationalist wants to assure that not all convictions have an equal claim to acceptance. Not all convictions have an equal claim to acceptance. If you are a relativist, and that leads to skepticism, then it turns out that a person saying “I believe that today is Saturday” and a person who says “I believe the Great Polyglook will come next October” . . . these two propositions are on equal epistemic footing. One is as rational or irrational as the other. And so, foundationalists don’t like that. Of course, none of us really does. Foundationalists in particular don’t like that and they say, “The way you distinguish between reason and unreason is by looking at propositions and seeing whether they are founded.” Ok? So, if I can relate the proposition about this being Saturday to a secure foundation for knowledge, then it counts. But if the Great Polyglook theory cannot be so related to the foundation then it doesn’t count as knowledge. Can anybody tell me what the next question is going to become then if you’re a foundationalist? WHAT’S THE FOUNDATION FOR FOUNDATIONALISM? Right! (i.e., what’s the foundation for foundationalism?)

Its one thing to say that your theory of knowledge has that kind of weblike structure – that everything has to be related to foundations, but then what is the foundation going to be? Here’s some possibilities:

(1) Common Sense Foundationalism. Common sense foundationalism can be found in the 20th century in the writings of G.E. Moore and Ludwig Wittgenstein and to some degree in Norman Malcolm’s book Knowledge and Certainty. The position is that certain universal and compulsively held beliefs about readily observable public facts are basic and presupposed by all other beliefs. What kind of belief would that be? Here’s one: “There are other people. Yeah, I believe there are other people.” Now that would be considered a universal, compulsively held belief about a readily observable public fact which is basic and presupposed by all my other beliefs. Now as the final courts of appeal in all inquiries and disputes, these common sense beliefs are logically (now notice that), they are logically beyond the possibility of correction. See if I get down to the foundation, there’s nothing more foundational than the foundation or else we’re not really at the foundation. So logically I can’t correct such beliefs if they are in the foundation. However, such beliefs we must recognize, offer a jeopardized and thus unsuccessful candidate for foundational beliefs. They do not provide infallible knowledge but only what is known in philosophy incorrigible[1] knowledge. As unavoidably imposed as common sense beliefs may be, there is no guarantee that things actually are as they seem to us to be. You see, somebody might say, “My beliefs that there are other people is incorrigible. In other words, I believe that my belief could not be corrected, I could not give up that belief.” But you see, that’s a psychological fact that “I can’t give up that belief”. The fact that I can’t give it up doesn’t tell me anything about reality. A person who is suffering from DTs can’t give up his belief that there are snakes on the bed either! Its incorrigible for him, he sees them, but that doesn’t mean that there are snakes on the bed. In addition to this phenomenological weakness, this version of foundationalism suffers great embarrassment by the faulty and conflicting ways in which common sense beliefs are identified and enumerated by people. That is to say if you were to go to any local university this afternoon and just take any random one-hundred people and say “Tell me what your common sense beliefs are, the one’s that you just can’t give up. . .” its going to be interesting to see the great diversity and in some cases conflict between these allegedly common sense beliefs. They’re not so “common-sense” after all.

And so then we look at another possibility which is, I think a very big one in Christian apologetical circles today: (2) Perceptual Foundationalism – Perceptual foundationalism says that infallible basic propositions which transcend beliefs imposed on us and which give an objective depiction of things are found in sincere, first-person, present-tense reports of a perceptual experience. Example: “I now seem to be seeing a yellow pencil.” O.k. So there’s a first-person, present-tense perceptual experience. Those who hold this view believe that the absence of any mediating agency between the knowing person and the private psychological state of which he is aware of guarantees that misinterpretation of his sensory experiences are precluded and therefore one cannot be mislead by those experiences. That is to say, the strength of a perceptual foundation is its non-inferential character. I’m not drawing any inference when I say, “I see white chalk” or so it’s said. I’m not sure that I hold to that view but that is the claim being made. The weakness of depending upon these allegedly non-inferential certitudes however is far more compelling to me.

Let me tell you a few of these weaknesses. Perceptual foundations for knowledge are not universal because some people don’t have perceptions, right? There’s some people that are blind for instance. And, even forgetting that, not every use of perception turns out to be veridical. Even people who can see are subject to optical illusions. And our perceptions are not defeasible[2] by reference for instance to a “normal perceiver under normal circumstances.” That is, somebody says, “Now wait a minute, what I mean is: perceptions are foundational when a normal perceiver under normal circumstances sees things.” But then what you have to go back and do is define what a normal perceiver is, and what normal circumstances are, and you have to be able to determine that you are a normal perceiver under such normal circumstances. But what is it that makes circumstances abnormal? How many factors are there that affect the supposed normality of our perceptions? Does anybody in the room know? I don’t know and I don’t think any epistemologist knows! The more we learn about the use of the human eye, the more we learn about psychology . . . we learn all the time, these factors. For me to say for absolutely certainty that I am a normal perceiver under normal circumstances, I have to be able to check off all the invalidating circumstances and say, “none of them apply to me so now I am in fact seeing white chalk.” Now do I know right now that I’m not dreaming this lecture? I mean, I had to prepare the lecture. Maybe it’s really Friday night and I’m dreaming that I’m giving this lecture and perceiving the chalk!

Now there are ways to check that right? O.k., let’s say that I’ve checked that one and I can get rid of it but now how many others factors might there be? Maybe something I’ve ate for lunch has affected my field of vision, maybe I hit my head getting out of my car, maybe I’ve got a tumor pressing on a particular portion of my brain causing hallucinations and on, and on, and on it goes. Perceptual foundations just aren’t the sorts of things that qualify as foundations, even if you do generally trust your senses. And then the problems of illusion and delusion preclude our certainty that some external object which is appearing to us in the way that we are perceiving is in fact external.

O.k., here’s an example: If I were to have everybody stare at the lights in this room for 30 seconds without looking away and then we turn off the lights do you know what happens? You’re going to see a red afterglow. Does that mean that there’s something red in the ceiling? No, it means that chemical reactions are taking place in your eyeball and brain where you have this sensory impression. So it goes to show that our perceptions are not always veridical anyway.

Of course, to speak counter-factually, even if pure and infallible perceptual foundations could be acquired, what would be the secure or reliable method of reasoning by which we could build a system of thought outward from the foundations? Assume again, contrary to everything I’ve told you that we can get perceptual foundations. O.k., this is a foundation . . . one perception: this is white chalk. Are you going to be able to live with that one foundation so as to construct a valid workable worldview? The perception of white chalk isn’t much to base a life and worldview on. Most people are going want to take a few of these foundational perceptions and build a system outward until you get something a little more interesting. You know like, “I love you.” It’d be nice to get from “this is white chalk” to “I love you” someday . . . and other things in between like “What is justice?” and “What is man?” and all the other key things that keep Western culture moving right along. How do I move from “This is white chalk and that is white chalk” to other more important premises? Somebody says, “Well, we use deduction right?” But deduction will not allow us to accept the most elementary, universal propositions about physical objects based on the simple basis of particular perceptions.

You see if I’m going to use deduction in an attempt to develop certainty about my perceptions, then we can show that this is impossible using the standard example of deductive reasoning:

P1 – All men are mortal.

P2 – Socrates is a man,

C – Therefore, Socrates is a mortal.

Now in order to do this one simple transaction in deduction though I’d have to know what? Answer: that all men are mortal. Now how would I know that all men are mortal? You’d say, “Well I’ve seen a man die” and I’d say, “Yeah, well so, one man died.” “But I’ve seen ten men, I’ve seen a hundred, I’ve seen a thousand men die.” Does that mean that all men are mortal? You see, we’re being tied down to the foundation of our perceptions. I don’t for a moment doubt that all men are mortal but when somebody says “I’m a perceptual foundationalist” I then say, “Well have you perceived that all men are mortal?” Now what if everybody in the whole world died except that one man who is the perceptual foundationalist? Could he then say “all men are mortal”? No, he couldn’t then say all men are mortal until he died. But then you see he wouldn’t be there to say it!

And so, you have problems with perceptual foundationalism because deduction is not possible. Somebody says, “O.k., we won’t use deduction, we’ll use induction, what’s often called probabilistic reasoning.” Allright. [example of induction to follow] “Every crow that I’ve seen so far is black. And therefore very probably the next crow that I see will be black.” That’s probabalism, or what’s called inductive reasoning. The difficulty with probabalism or inductive reasoning, is that it cannot show that’s its required assumption is known with certainty nor that it is even probably true. What’s the required assumption with probabalism? The required assumption is that there’s uniformity in experience and nature. If there is no uniformity in the world then it doesn’t make any sense to extrapolate from past instances to future instances. Take the example I just gave, “Past crows have been black, the next crow, the future crow will be black as well.” That doesn’t make a bit of sense, unless of course, nature is uniform. Now, if you’re a perceptual foundationalist how can you know that all of nature is uniform? So, the foundation of induction and therefore, of science has been lost as well. Historically, this problem has been called by philosophers The Problem of Induction.

Foundationalism is basically on the downward slide modern epistemology. Those people who think you find certainty by relating your propositions to a secure foundation have not been able to carry out the task and you have a lot of people moving back in the direction of epistemological relativism. However, another approach that has been attempted in the 20th century and that is pragmatism.



[1] Incorrigible means “incapable of being corrected or amended; not reformable.” http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/incorrigible

[2] Defeasible means “capable of being annulled or made void - a defeasible claim. http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=defeasible

13 comments:

Daniel said...

Almost all presuppositional methods I've ever seen rely upon the basic regress argument -- re-hashing Sextus Empiricus. The claim is that God is the only "sure" foundation for any sort of knowledge, and that any other foundation presupposes God in some way, of course. This is "demonstrated" by the regress argument, which, when taken as far as the skeptic can take it, the theist claims, "And now all these basic presuppositions you have -- these must be 'accounted for'."

Dusman said...

1. This is an ad hominem and does nothing to undermine or interact with the information and arguments laid out in the post.

2. The pertinent section linked above states the following regarding Sextus' core philosophical axiom:

" . . . Sextus advocates simply giving up belief: that is, suspending judgment about whether or not anything is knowable. Only by suspending judgment can we attain a state of atarxia (rough, 'peace of mind'). Sextus did not think such a general suspension of judgment to be impractical, since we may live without any beliefs, acting by habit."

Sextus' Pyrrhonic view contradicts the Van Tilian presuppositional approach directly by positing that people should suspend holding the view that anything is really and truly knowable. The problems are that (1) to say that we can at least know that we should suspend judgment that we can know things with certainty is to at least *know* that proposition itself. So, it is self-refuting. (2) Van Tilians do *not* say that all unbelievers "suspend" all of their beliefs or deny the knowability of things. Quite the opposite, we affirm that non-Christians *can* and *do* know things. Take care Dan.

Valinda555 said...

Being an atheist is a whole lot better than living your life by superstition. I should know -- I've been an atheist for over 40 years.

The world is what the world is. It doesn't matter if it is what you think it should be. Just because you think the world is flat, that does not make the world flat.

Stop living in the past. This is 2007. There is no god. Get over it.

Dusman said...

1. As usual, the comments we get from atheists fail to interact with the contents of the post and are simply bald assertions. Yours are no different. So, if you are going to merely assert and make ad hominems in Dawkinesque style instead of setting up logical arguments against Christian theism, then I can be arbitrary too and assert this for the fun of it: God exists, you don't like it, get over it.

2. Here's another one of your assertions fancily turned against you: The world is what the world is. It doesn't matter if it ISN'T what you think it should be (or want it to be). Just because you think God doesn't exist doesn't mean that He doesn't exist. Stop living in the time of the French Revolution, this is 2007, the Christian God exists, so repent from your autonomy lest you perish (Luke 13:3).

3. Also, your previous comment under "The Strawman Argument From Evil" was rejected because it amounted to an invitation to come debate in a "teenage atheist debate forum" or something of the type. We have neither the time nor the interest to engage in such silliness. If you want to interact with the contents of the blog articles here then you are more than welcome to do so and we challenge you in the same. However, you are *not* welcome to post "commercials", especially when they have nothing to do with the original post. If it is your desire to lead astray naive teenagers, then I leave you to your sin, but as you type away in the name of the god autonomy, remember what Jesus said in Luke 17:2 "It would be better for [you] if a millstone were hung around [your] neck and [you] were thrown into the sea, than that [you] would cause one of these little ones to stumble."

Thanks and take care.

Valinda555 said...

Who better to speak on the reasons for being an atheist than an atheist?

What do you know of atheism?

I can believe you are afraid of teenagers. Young people are often bold and will call things as they see them.

The Christian Bible is fiction. You can write any fiction that you will. The writers in Hollywood do it all the time.

Bye-bye, now. It's almost church time. It's time for you to go and join the others of your kind who are still living in the Dark Ages and practice your archaic superstitions. Go run and hide where you do not have to face your fears. Go hide in your fiction where you do not have to face reality.

(Sunday, January 28, 2007 9:39 AM)

Dusman said...

Valinda,

Thanks for your response:

1. Again, you make more unsubstantiated assertions. You state, "Who better to speak on the reasons for being an atheist than an atheist? What do you know of atheism?"

Well, I *was* a professing atheist until about 11 years ago. Before I was a Christian, I vociferously read the atheistic works of Nietzsche, Sarte, Russell, Smith, Rand, Dawkins, Harris, etc. So, I *am* qualified to speak on atheism from a pastoral perspective contrary to what you may think. Also, as you suggest per your comment above, if it is true that one cannot authoritatively criticize a particular worldview unless they adhere to that same worldview, then you shoot yourself in the foot because by your own standards you can't criticize Christianity because "who better to know Christianity than a Christian?"

2. You state, ,"I can [sic] believe you are afraid of teenagers. Young people are often bold and will call things as they see them."

It may be true that teenagers will speak boldly when hiding behind a keyboard, but boldness isn't an ipso facto indicator of wisdom nor is it a guarantee that the bold proclaimaint's view of the world "as they see it" is true, right, or good. I could use your line of thinking just as well say that because the pederast is bold in his proclamation, that therefore means that I need to take away time from my family to discuss and debate with them the supposed, but false moral propriety of having sex with six year old boys. How absurd, uninteresting, and a thorough waste of time!

I have a reverent fear of God rather than a fear of man and you'd do well to have the same lest you remain in your folly and perish in your sinful autonomy (Pro. 1:7). BTW, if I'm so afraid of a teenage atheist, then why did I make an effort to attend a local freethought meeting so as to stimulate good discussion and debate amongst *adult* atheists? (http://graceinthetriad.blogspot.com/2007/01/my-second-and-probably-last.html)

3. Your assertions essentially say this: "I don't like the God of the Bible. Therefore He *must* not exist." O.k. Valinda, we have figured out that you don't like the idea of the Christian God. We understand that . . you've made it clear, now let's move on, shall we? Now, the fact that you merely assert your hatred of God doesn't give you a philosophical "free pass" as it doesn't constitute a *reasoned* and logical argument *against* His existence. Do you understand the difference between mere emotional assertions vs. robust logical argumentation? If so then bring out your best guns. We are ready. Your burden now is to set up a *logical* and cogent, non-fallacious argument without resorting to mere assertions and ad hominem fallacies if you want to try to make a rational argument against Christian theism. If you're not going to do so, but instead you just want to come here to "vent" your dislike of Christianity, God, and the Bible, then you are showing myself and all who read this combox that you are a fool who doesn't know what they are talking about and that you're so ignorant of the issues that you blindly come on this blog to vent your blather against Christianity, waste your time, and waste the ATP in your fingers. So, why not send your atheistic teenagers to this blog so they can read and interact with these articles in the combox rather than hearing about it through the filter of your atheism?

So, bye-bye now. It's almost time for me to read a little Dawkins so as to provide a more in-depth critique of him in the future (http://graceinthetriad.blogspot.com/2006/11/can-atheistic-materialism-provide.html)

While I do that, I am sure that you will enjoy your God-hating time by influencing the sophmoric teenagers to suppress the truth in unrighteousness as you desperately try to convince them (and yourself) that all is "sound and fury signifying nothing" and that you're not answerable to your Creator (Rom. 1:19-22). Take care.

Gray_Mouser said...
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Dusman said...

Hi Gray,

Welcome to our blog.

Funny how you accuse me of having mental superpowers and the right to "point [my] finger in everyone's nose" when you think you too can read minds,

"I KNEW you must think you have super powers ..."

You know that Gray? Hmm....sounds like you've got some "powers" of your own.

". . . you are talking like you know what Valinda was thinking when she wrote her posts."

I do *know* what she was thinking about God in the context of her comments because I can read. She said things like, "There is no god. Get over it" and "The Christian Bible is fiction."

Best . . .

Gray_Mouser said...
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Dusman said...

Gray,

Valinda has made it clear that she is a God-hater because per the Christian worldview, Christ said you are either for Him or against Him:

"No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other. . . " Luke 16:13a.

So, both you and her are on the broad road to destruction as you continue to shake your fist at the God you think only exists in the brains of Christians(Matt. 7:13-14).

Now, as I was saying, functioning within my worldview, I have clear and certain *epistemological* warrant to say that I *know* that she hates God, because the self-attesting Christ of Scripture said so about people like her.

You said, "Most folks would have had to ask, but Dusman is smarter than having to stoop to asking why someone write something. I'm impressed."

I don't have to ask her directly if she hates God, her typed responses in this combox clearly demonstrate where her heart lies in the matter.

Now for you: Go on and continue to type away Gray, I'm just going to remind you that you *will* give an account to God for every word typed in defense of your sinful autonomy (Acts 17:31). Go ahead and mock, but unless you repent, you will perish in hell.

"For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned." Matt. 12:37

Now, regarding your blurb about Daniel's comment above, you show that you are ignorant about the various types of ad hominem fallacies. Daniel committed the "genetic fallacy" when he sought to undermine the origin of my apologetic method rather than interacting with and attacking the truthfulness thereof. The famed secular logic book "Introduction to Logic" by Copi & Cohen demonstrates my point regarding Daniel's use of the genetic fallacy on pp. 167-168:

"A conclusion or its proposition may cometimes be condemned simply because the view defended is also defended by persons widely believed to be of bad character [or of supposedly poor epistemological footing, per Daniel's comment - Dusman]. Socrates was convicted of impiety at his notorious trial partly because of his association with pesons widely known to have been disloyal to Athens and rapacious in conduct. From his day to ours there have been countless cases of such 'guilt by association' in which persons are unfairly accused, and sometimes convicted, because they have beeen associated with other persons in disrepute."

And so, Daniel tried to frame my apologetic in the same light as Sextus Empiricus' Pyrrhonism, but in attempting to do so he committed the above fallacy (which *is* a form of ad hominem per Copi & Cohen p. 167) and even worse, his argument was moot anyway because it didn't accurately represent my approach, thus also committing the fallacy of ignoracio elenchi (cf. Copi, 172).

Thus, I pointed out to him in my response that he flattened his own tires. Sadly, you did the same when you showed everyone reading this combox that you don't have enough discernment to realize that different varieties of the ad hominem exist and not all of them directly attack the character of a person. Even worse, you (like Daniel) tried to make me look stupid by using an *incorrect and irrelevant* argument against my response to Daniel when it backfired on you and made you look stupid.

The difference between Daniel and you is that Daniel is intelligent enough to know when quitting time has arrived, you on the other hand don't seem to have the same awareness. Look Gray, you need to repent of your intellectual and moral autonomy lest you remain intellectually and spiritually dead and perish in the judgment for said sins.

Do yourself a favor, take time to read through the posts here arguing against atheism (instead of defending Valinda) and interact with that material, rather than coming in the combox to vent.

"A fool vents all his feelings, But a wise man holds them back." Pro. 29:11

~best

Dusman

Dusman said...

Oh, and by the way, if you (or anyone else) continues posting comments that are deemed irrelevant to the original blog post, your comments will be rejected. The reason: Because you show that you want to have a contentious emotional disagreement rather than argue rationally and logically in defense of your atheism.

"Reject a factious man after a first and second warning, knowing that such a man is perverted and sinning being self-condemned." Titus 3:10-11

Gray_Mouser said...
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Dusman said...

I'll gladly give it one more shot, since you actually *did* (whether knowingly or unknowingly) touch on part of the blog post in your last comment.

Gray said,

"The reason folks stop posting in your blog isn't because you've dazzled them with your logical acumen."

So, now you have *super powers* and can supposedly read Daniel's mind via internet telekinesis so as to tell me why he quit posting huh? And you accused me of doing the same thing to Valinda! Gray, as I've pointed out before, it is hypocritical and inconsistent for you to accuse me of something, and then think that you have a "free pass" to turn around and do the same thing to me.

Gray said,

"Quite the opposite, your pride and your refusal to even face the possibility that you might be wrong makes you not worth talking with."

I've *never* said I couldn't be wrong. I have always argued with other atheists in various forums that I may be wrong in my *interpretation* of the Christian worldview and may need to change or tweak particular aspects of my understanding of it as time goes on so as to more accurately represent what it teaches.

However Gray, the Christian worldview *itself* cannot be wrong because it is inconceivable to claim that you have a basis for doubting it when that supposed basis for doubting it would render the preconditions of rational inquiry impossible. See here: http://www.proginosko.com/docs/knowledge_and_theism.html

Take care.